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Sweet. My UA Corsair will get a double buff. Hope this comes before next summer though..  Good to see the priorities are to give other classes a 2nd buffing before Pirates and Thieves get one buffing..  According to one post: quoteLooks like the corsair will get a shadow partner like skill. You heard it here first folks. Very interesting..
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I just hope they do not get rid of my Corsair pirate ship and cannon balls..haha. Fully welcome any new fun attack and increased power. I also hope they make every buff skill able to be used on the ship, and that Pirates get more buffs in general!!
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..for Korea.
So what is the big hoopla about the patch going on today? I didn't read anything special..
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UA's should get more for their hard work. We should not have less HP and slots. We should also have a new attack after lv120, since the UA skill becomes useless at that point.
I am excited for the Pirate revamp. "Everything but the name will change" is exciting. I hope Corsairs get a new ship, and more power and speed.
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Summon is just a pointless addition. quoteOctober – Resistance, Aran, and Evan revamp.
November – Warriors/Mages/Archers, Cygnus Knights, and Ultimate Explorer revamp.
December – Pirate and Thief revamp So if following a 6 month transition to GMS, we should see these in: - April - May - June If they come sooner like people have been talking about, expect them each a month sooner.
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Summon is just a pointless addition. quoteOctober – Resistance, Aran, and Evan revamp.
November – Warriors/Mages/Archers, Cygnus Knights, and Ultimate Explorer revamp.
December – Pirate and Thief revamp So if following a 6 month transition to GMS, we should see these in: - April - May - June If they come sooner like people have been talking about, expect them each a month sooner. GMS has caught up a bit on KMS, I believe the last turnover for major content was 4 months or so. Either way, long wait. That is even better! Last I read, the turnover went from 6-7 months to 5. 4 is better!  March, April, May
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Summon is just a pointless addition.
Summon is more useful in the long term then Sharkwave. Sharkwave is amazing from lv50-120. Never would have had the patience to get a Corsair otherwise. After that, I will never use it again. But some useless little summon isn't that helpful either. Only if it was as powerful as other summons (Ranger's Phoenix, etc.)
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I guess if some small amount of damage every few seconds helps tremendously. I'll probably forget to turn it on all the time.
Hopefully they attack faster than once every 5 seconds.
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I guess if some small amount of damage every few seconds helps tremendously. I'll probably forget to turn it on all the time.
Hopefully they attack faster than once every 5 seconds.
Nah it won't increase it by a lot but it'll make you better then your adventure counterpart with the same funding. ..Then I will accept that this is a decent addition. I do still think that UA's should have gotten something A LOT BETTER..
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One word.
Kamehameha.
Fully agree with that. Pirates and Thieves are becoming very flashy. Guess the Corsair ship is still the same!
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Fully agree with that. Pirates and Thieves are becoming very flashy. Guess the Corsair ship is still the same!
Nope you don't even have the ship anymore. lololol WTF? Are you serious? What the hell is the point of my Corsair without the ship?!?!
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I am very annoyed with this change. I hated the pistol aspect of my Corsair and could not wait for my ship at lv120 (this is why I did a UA Gunslinger so I could avoid the gun-shooting aspects). Guess I will be abandoning my Corsair once the changes happen.. 
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Watching the videos now. First impressions: Corsairs: - Not happy about the ship being gone. That was the whole point of the Corsair to me - Interesting to see a Hurricane-type skill. Wonder how that matches up to the Bowman/Xbow skill - Wings is much better. Helpful in getting around maps now - The shotgun skill looks fun. Reminds me of Cannoneers..lol - The gatling gun octo-pirate skill looks cool. Hopefully it will be helpful when maxed - Loving all the buffs, whatever they do. Excited for double dice Buccaneers: - Just made one of these recently to fool around with. Could not stand them when they first came out (post-BB should help that) - New Buccs seem to have a lot of flashy skills, which is cool Shadowers: - Lots of buffs and flashy skills - Still weak Hermits: - A lot more explosive and flashier - Not happy about Drain being gone Edit: Nov 25, 11 7:16am
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I'm chill with ship being gone simply because Mechs and WH exist, giving options for anybody who wants to mount something all night long. The ship was certainly cool and fun, but it just didn't really fit with the playstyle of the class up to that point.
Drain will definitely be missed though, it was an excellent skill that synergized well, there was no need to remove it.
For me, the whole point of Corsair was the cool pirate ship. Now with that going to be gone, my lv140 UA Corsair seems so pointless. My only hope is that the Hurricane-like pirate skill is almost or more powerful than Hurricane, and makes the loss of the Battleship Cannon attack worth it. I don't care about riding something, but the awesome ship made getting to lv120 worth it. Now I do not want this Revamp to happen for a long time! lol Sucks about the Drain skill being gone for Thieves. I spammed that skill at times to stay alive! Wonder what people think of that.
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Yea it seems that almost every class has at least a version of each others skills. Guess each class is the same base class with a few differences... 
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I wonder if Nexon would ever add a 5th job, say for like lv150+ (or 160+). Then maybe Corsairs would get their ship back.. Do you guys think that other classes are going to whine about not having complete revamps?
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http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2011/11/24/kmst-ver-1-2-409-thief-and-pirate-reorganization/A lot of people are very unhappy about the Corsair and Brawler changes (obviously). Main complaints: no ship for Corsair, and removal of Transform for Brawlers (obviously). Up until the revamp, those were the main purposes of both jobs IMO!  New names for the Gunslinger line: Gunslinger > Valkyrie > CaptainNew names for Brawler line: Infighter > Buccaneer > ViperHas Hurricane been upped in power at all? If not, the new Rapid Fire of Corsair is A LOT stronger than Hurricane.. Edit: Nov 28, 11 10:18am
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New names for the Gunslinger line: Gunslinger > Valkyrie > Captain New names for Brawler line: Infighter > Buccaneer > Viper
Has Hurricane been upped in power at all? If not, the new Rapid Fire of Corsair is A LOT stronger than Hurricane..
Those aren't new names the pirate branch in KMS was always called that. Also Corsairs don't have AFA While BM do so it doesn't matter if Rapid Fire is stronger then Hurricane. KMS had to make it stronger so it would be on par with BM's Hurricane + AFA. Ah...that makes sense.
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It's funny how tons of people complain, yet they got what they wanted, even if some visual changes were made. I do like the visual designs of the skills, especially for Shadower. Smoke screen could be a little less obnoxious with its appearance, though. "Can't see ****!"
If you mean the people on Basil? Yeah they're annoying first there used to be at least two threads a month saying Pirates +Thieves deserve a buff but now they get it they're complaining saying they didn't want a buff. >_> I guess they just wanted to be stronger but for nothing else to change. Personally, that was what I was hoping for. Some new skills would be welcomed, but I am not excited about some things being removed completely. Oh well...I guess I will have to get used to Corsair being different. Hopefully I can get it close to lv200 before the revamp! 
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Apparently Sairs became weaker with their new update lol
More reason for me to level mine up as much as possible before the revamp. I will go back to him this weekend, during the two 4-hr 2x exp events. Sat and Sun.. Edit: Nov 30, 11 8:27pm
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Bishops should be no higher than last, since their only purpose is to support. Sad but true. You would think that with their name and flashyness, BaM's would be the strongest Mage. I was excited when they first came out and quickly got one to lv70, then abandoned it.  Does the Shadower line of jobs have any good mob skills? The last time I had one, it was a lv43 from a few years ago.
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According to people, Transform and Battleship become mounts after the Pirate Revamp. http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2287108/1/Super_transform_and_battleship_arent_Gone.htmlquote Orange Mushroom Blog
Pirates can receive their own mounts now, after the fourth job advancement by completing a quiz for Samuel. Vipers receive Super Transform and Captains receive Battleship! You cannot use skills or attack on these mounts. They have 170% speed and 120% jump. Although I am sad about losing Cannon (which I loved), I am happy that Battleship is not completely gone!  I think I am starting to warm up to the new Corsair changes. They have so many unique attacks (other than Rapid Fire)...like CS. http://orangemushroom.wordpress.com/2011/12/14/kms-ver-1-2-148-the-beginning-of-the-counterattack/#more-2008quote OM Blog
You can trade in your old mastery books or skill books to Maple Admin in exchange for mastery books for the new skills that they have received. I wonder if this means skill books already used, such as the books I used on Cannon and Torpedo (and spend like 100m on).. quote OM Blog
The new Navigation System has been added! It can be used in two ways. The first is through the Quest window! You can press the Get Directions button to be shown how to go to the NPC in question.
You can also open the World Map, press the Register Directions button, and press a dot on the map. It will leave an icon and then you will be led to that map! This a helpful addition.  Edit: Dec 15, 11 8:41am
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Some people are worried that the T/P Revamp isn'y coming to GMS. No clue why.. http://www.basilmarket.com/forum/2417577/0/Pirate_and_Thief_Revamp_might_Not_come_to_Gms.htmlJust because things have been getting pushed back, apparently that means no Revamp. Love the logic there..
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Pirate Revamp is coming "later this summer", according to someone at Nexon. Thoughts?
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I hate Nexon. They ripped Corsair + Buccs skills and gave it to Jett, then delayed the revamp for Pirates. If they decide to give us the shitty CMS pirate 'Revamp' with only the % increase. I am quitting maple. <_<
Finally watched my first Jett game play at this link. Wow. They are such a ripoff of every other Pirate class and Merc...=S I am completely disappointed with this new class now. I don't need to make another Cannon Master/Pirate.
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Funny because unless something changes, the Revamp will be coming in the Fall or Winter.
I don't really care about the Revamp anymore. I was before learning that my Corsair will not get any better and will still be very weak in comparison to other classes now. It sucks because I put A LOT of time into him (lv90 Gunslinger [deleted before making -->], lv120 Dawn Warrior, lv141 UA Corsair)..
I forget if the Revamp also includes changes to Cannoneer's, because that would be the only part of the Revamp I would be interested in now.
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Funny because unless something changes, the Revamp will be coming in the Fall or Winter.
I don't really care about the Revamp anymore. I was before learning that my Corsair will not get any better and will still be very weak in comparison to other classes now. It sucks because I put A LOT of time into him (lv90 Gunslinger [deleted before making -->], lv120 Dawn Warrior, lv141 UA Corsair)..
I forget if the Revamp also includes changes to Cannoneer's, because that would be the only part of the Revamp I would be interested in now.
Cannoneer do get changed, somewhere in one of these threads I had the numbers up. Can't seem to find the info, but I guess it doesn't matter until the Fall/Winter anyways. Hope their attack speed and power go up!
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Oh I meant differences to attacks power, etc. Not just that one stat..
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That's a reflection of your attack's power. It's how much power you are getting from your attacks if you're fully optimizing your skill rotation (for most classes, this means holding down an attack button, CS are no exception). The exact skill change values can be found in the same spot as always, Southperry, king of math. The patch cluster name is Justice, so you want to look for a thread that has the words "Justice" and "Pirate" in it. The other alternative is to read up on what Max wrote up here, or look up the KMS 1.2.148 patch notes on Southperry's extraction board, since it's organized to be easily found by version # anyway. Many choices. There's also Shakar's site, but I never really go there so idk/idc how he actually organizes content. The short version is, when you're hunting information, the last places you should check are Google and Basilmarket, both are not worth the effort when there's tool and sites readily available that specialize in MS data. I never use Basil for important information...lol. Usually use Google, and open 10+ pages until I find the information I am looking for.. I'll look around in those later. Thanks!
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So I just got my Phantom to lv73, and now I am finally having some fun with it. It's new skills are very Dual Blade meets Mercedes (fast and flashy). It's funny how all the new classes are so flashy and fast. Wonder if all older classes will one day be Revamped with fast and flashy new skills?
Now to locate a Combo Attack and Holy Symbol for my 3rd job stolen skills. What other one 3rd job skill should I try to find?
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Magic Crash, Holy Symbol, Combo Attack. Those are the three best skills you can get a hold of more or less. CO isn't a bad option, but MC will let you do bosses ridiculously fast, HS will let you train crazy fast, and CA is just ridiculous and crazy.
I have Holy Symbol, and am still will resume searching for CA later today when I get home. Had Magic Crash but got rid of it (don't plan to boss for AGES). Have 'Luck of the Dice' and 'Concentrate' as my other two at the moment.
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