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How about having a grandfather that died serving in World War 2 for a fight he was forced to go into? Isn't that proof enough that it happened? And I swear, ANYONE that writes "But how can you PROVE it was World War 2 that he died in?" I swear that I will find out where you live, come to your house, and beat the living crap out of you...

No he is right in his point that you can't PROVE it happened for real but the matter of the fact is that because we beleive it happend it really did.

See morning dreamer had a perfectly good example that you guys took the wrong way. He is trying to say that he beleives it happend but no one can prove it, I personally hate people like you all who can't bring them selves to see the truth, but ofcourse it is hard for any human being to see the real truth even for myself...-_-

will everyone that said it didnt happen shut the *bleep* up,do you have nothing to do in your lives but disrepect something that is so important as this,yeah none of my relatves that I know of served in the war,but that doesnt mean it didnt happen,how about you go to every *bleep*ing family that had a family member stuck on the Arizona when it went under so they can beat the shit out of you,or go to the families that had a loved one lost on the shore of Normady on D-Day,lets see what they'll do to you then,go to museums,get off your ass,walk outside,and go somewhere,wherever it is,that has photos,video clips,and other stuff and ask the person next to you to kick your head into. But if you have nothing other to do besides disrespect something that has had an affect world wide,go and kill yourself for all I care,are you even an American?? because if you are,how about you go live in a third world country where noone cares what happens to you,because at this point,I hope there is someone a few doors down to where you live that had a family member die in WWII and you tell them that you wont believe that it happen,I would love it if they beat the shit out of you because thats what you deserve

you cant prove anything completely, its all about trust what your told. theres loads of proof about 9/11 being staged and there is still questions being asked, why did witnesses hear explosions when the towers collapsed? why was there such a small hole in the pentagon even though apparently a plane that was taller than it hit it? why did bush stay at the school after he was told? everyone has their own views, tho its hard to prove WWII didnt happen its too big a thing to pull off, affecting the whole world would take a lot of work.

Hay MD, do you think you should change the name of this thread to "list of Neoseekers who just don't get it"?

Look, it is quite simple, try and follow:

Knowledge is gathered through 5 senses, all of which can be deceived.

Hence, nothing you "know" is immune to being false.

Hence, nothing is or can be 100% proven.

Proof in court: All legal systems use a method called "reasonable proof", which is where judgment is used to decide if the charge is valid or not based on the evidence. There would be no such thing as a Jury if the proof was 100%, because 100% proven things cannot be disproven, another reason why they are impossible. If the proof used in the justice system was believed to be total and completely infallible, there would be no such thing as a little something called the appeal system, what is the point of a system to appeal against fact? Oh wait, that's right, because despite the "proof" that sustained conviction, mistakes can be and are made, hence this is not Absolute Proof.

WWII: This really makes me laugh I must say. Anyone who takes this personally and gets upset is only showing their inability to control their emotions and think straight. WWII probably happened, but it can't be proven, because whatever evidence exists can be cast into doubt, not reasonable doubt, but doubt none the less. Talk to a veteran, veteran's can lie, they didn't loose that ability by getting old you know. Your dad or granddad or whoever died in the war, yeah, but maybe he didn't, you got told he died in the war, but what if he died of a heart-attack? Papars can be forged, records too, its all very simple. No-one is denying the occurrence of WWII, just the existence of Absolute Proof of it.

This conversation is completely ridiculous. You guys are using the worst of examples.
Of course there is proof that 9/11 happened.
I understand what you guys are trying to prove, but I disagree with your examples. And, what this has to do with odd facts, I have no clue.

In the end this disscussion is not about world war II
this discussion is about the basis of information
gathered
How do you find out if it is the world at war?
world war I was not a world at war it was just
all of the super powers of its time of course
you can prove a war happened and at yy/mm/dd
but you can't prove what was the context of that
war sure you can find where they are from
documents of found in the war itself are
questionable because it could be falsified
evidence but your not going to get anywhere
if you feel you can only go by ruins that
are left (there are bunkers all over europe)
(and the deaf holes the nazi were found in)
(the many ships sunk and u-boats also
100,000,000 of english pounds counterfeits)

but I ask you what will you believe I mean
we can find all the evidence in the world
but will you even believe any of the data
because it now could be false
where will you draw the line?
after you make the same mistake 100 times over?
2000?
10000?

will we even live to repeat the mistakes of history?