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Star of Spurs a half decent person Neoholic total posts: 11000 since: May 2006	Nov 05, 12 at 10:13am ^ Presidential Election 2012
	Log in to remove this advertisement quote Eithne quote Star of Spurs quote Eithne I feel like it could go either way. I am voting for Romney. Not that I like him but at this point it's about voting for the lesser of two evils. ...so you vote Romney? D: ...Yes. It's a matter of opinion. Always a bit poor if you can't justify it mind. -------------------
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Goonjimbo RIP Sniggit ♥ Legendary Seeker total posts: 17284 since: Aug 2007	Nov 05, 12 at 10:16am ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	I'm voting for Turd Sandwich, ------------------- Not dictated, not worth reading but still shamelessly advertised --> Goon's rants on life
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Lazzara #riseabovehate 4 lyf Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13262 since: Mar 2004	Nov 05, 12 at 10:18am ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	quote AznLiquid I don't have a horse in this race but it would hurt my brain if Romney won. America can do a lot better than what they got from Obama's first term, but Romney isn't that guy. Dude's a piece of shit, and it's impossible to know what his actual policies even are. He literally lies about them every time he talks in public. BTW his current economic plan is the same as Bush's, how'd that work out for you guys last time? He's always a major opponent of marijuana (medical or otherwise) and he expressed what he believed in. There's nothing wrong with saying "I'm not in favor of medical marijuana". What was he supposed to do? He could've said "yes, I'm going to arrest you", but he was clearly uncomfortable about the whole thing and decided to leave. and how did Obama's economic plan work out for america? did it cut the deficit? ------------------- i will stand, take my stand at the back the motherbleeping bus cuz im a proud ass bleep ✪ Fandango Crew ✪
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Soda Sleep well, Sniggit. Permanently Plugged In since: Mar 2008	Nov 05, 12 at 10:20am ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
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Lazzara #riseabovehate 4 lyf Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13262 since: Mar 2004	Nov 05, 12 at 10:21am ^ Presidential Election 2012
	quote Star of Spurs Always a bit poor if you can't justify it mind. why he might want to vote for romney instead: obama approves drone strikes failed to close guantanamo bay (it was one of his promises in 2008 too) did not end the war in iraq/ afghanistan; then we have egypt, libya and syria promised to cut the deficit, but adds trillions to the deficit if this happened to a republican candidate, say this all happened during bush's first term, would you want to vote for the same person? let's just be honest now ------------------- i will stand, take my stand at the back the motherbleeping bus cuz im a proud ass bleep ✪ Fandango Crew ✪
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Star of Spurs a half decent person Neoholic total posts: 11000 since: May 2006	Nov 05, 12 at 10:21am ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	quote Lazzara quote AznLiquid I don't have a horse in this race but it would hurt my brain if Romney won. America can do a lot better than what they got from Obama's first term, but Romney isn't that guy. Dude's a piece of shit, and it's impossible to know what his actual policies even are. He literally lies about them every time he talks in public. BTW his current economic plan is the same as Bush's, how'd that work out for you guys last time? He's always a major opponent of marijuana (medical or otherwise) and he expressed what he believed in. There's nothing wrong with saying "I'm not in favor of medical marijuana". What was he supposed to do? He could've said "yes, I'm going to arrest you", but he was clearly uncomfortable about the whole thing and decided to leave. But he does try to leave twice. Then leaves the guy mid-sentence. He doesn't even answer his question. He's legitimately got no reason to be against medical marijuana other than the paraphrasing of a book written eons ago. And for a person that wants to be in charge of one of the most powerful countries in the world, that's frightening. I agree that as a businessman he's done well but as a person, who's going to implement his ideas and beliefs onto the entire country? No. quote Lazzara quote Star of Spurs Always a bit poor if you can't justify it mind. why he might want to vote for romney instead: obama approves drone strikes failed to close guantanamo bay (it was one of his promises in 2008 too) did not end the war in iraq/ afghanistan; then we have egypt, libya and syria promised to cut the deficit, but adds trillions to the deficit if this happened to a republican candidate, say this all happened during bush's first term, would you want to vote for the same person? let's just be honest now Why he might not want to vote Romney: He's a compulsive liar who changes his mind daily He's trying to implement his beliefs on others regarding abortion, medical marijuana Believes that 47% of America are 'dependent on government' and 'believes that they're victims' Hasn't paid taxes in years Why he may want to vote Obama: Healthcare now doesn't have to cost thousands upon thousands Gays are openly allowed in the military now He's not Mitt Romney Mostly importantly he's only halfway through with his plans Besides, have you seen Romney's plan to fix the economy? quote "... my own view is that if we win on November 6th, there will be a great deal of optimism about the future of this country. We'll see capital come back and we'll see—without actually doing anything—we'll actually get a boost in the economy." -------------------
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Lazzara #riseabovehate 4 lyf Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13262 since: Mar 2004	Nov 05, 12 at 10:34am ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	quote Star of Spurs But he does try to leave twice. Then leaves the guy mid-sentence. He doesn't even answer his question. He's legitimately got no reason to be against medical marijuana other than the paraphrasing of a book written eons ago. And for a person that wants to be in charge of one of the most powerful countries in the world, that's frightening. I agree that as a businessman he's done well but as a person, who's going to implement his ideas and beliefs onto the entire country? No. because he feels uncomfortable. he wasn't in a position to answer the question. he could say "oh, i'm not going to arrest you, don't worry!" but then his integrity will be questioned- especially when he's a governor from a conservative party. he could just say "yes, i'm going to arrest you" but it's going to be a bad publicity. to tell him that "i'm not in favor of medical marijuana" is probably the best answer he could come up with without hurting anybody. and again, legalization of marijuana has nothing to do with him being the governor anyway, the voter gets to decide. governor (nor the president) isn't the law maker. and there's no need to attack his religious belief when marijuana usage isn't necessarily regulated in the bible (did the bible even say anything about smoking pot?) if you really think that Romney is going to implement his belief in the country, you either have no understanding how american politics work or you're just an idiot. quote Star of Spurs Why he might not want to vote Romney: He's a compulsive liar who changes his mind daily He's trying to implement his beliefs on others regarding abortion, medical marijuana Believes that 47% of America are 'dependent on government' and 'believes that they're victims' Hasn't paid taxes in years yes, he changes his mind daily to fit the needs (and pretty much shows how indecisive he is), but so does Obama. you complained about him not changing his moral, but you're also complaining about him changing his position? no he doesn't. He believes they should be regulated in state level. He actually allows abortion as long as it has credible reasons (eg, rape victim, danger to the woman, etc) 47% of americans don't pay taxes; surely he's got a point? these people rely on welfare benefits while the 53% of americans work their asses off only for their income to get redistributed to people who don't necessarily deserve it. he pays more taxes than most americans do? i don't really know where did you get this from. lower tax rate in comparison to his running mate (ryan pays 20% in taxes, Romney pays 13%), but Romney still pays more taxes than ryan. quote Why he may want to vote Obama: Healthcare now doesn't have to cost thousands upon thousands Gays are openly allowed in the military now He's not Mitt Romney Mostly importantly he's only halfway through with his plans yes, at the cost of exaggerating the deficit of federal budget as well as the burden of taxpayers checks and balances But he's Obama halfway through? he promised that by this time that he's going to close down g-bay, he's going to try to end the war, and he also promised that he's going to cut the deficit (not adds trillions in the deficit) by the end of his term. Edit: Nov 05, 12 10:44am ------------------- i will stand, take my stand at the back the motherbleeping bus cuz im a proud ass bleep ✪ Fandango Crew ✪
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Star of Spurs a half decent person Neoholic total posts: 11000 since: May 2006	Nov 05, 12 at 10:38am ^ Presidential Election 2012
	quote Lazzara quote Star of Spurs But he does try to leave twice. Then leaves the guy mid-sentence. He doesn't even answer his question. He's legitimately got no reason to be against medical marijuana other than the paraphrasing of a book written eons ago. And for a person that wants to be in charge of one of the most powerful countries in the world, that's frightening. I agree that as a businessman he's done well but as a person, who's going to implement his ideas and beliefs onto the entire country? No. because he feels uncomfortable. he wasn't in a position to answer the question. he could say "oh, i'm not going to arrest you, don't worry!" but then his integrity will be questioned- especially when he's a governor from a conservative party. he could just say "yes, i'm going to arrest you" but it's going to be a bad publicity. to tell him that "i'm not in favor of medical marijuana" is probably the best answer he could come up with without hurting anybody. and again, legalization of marijuana has nothing to do with him being the governor anyway, the voter gets to decide. governor (nor the president) isn't the law maker. and there's no need to attack his religious belief when marijuana usage isn't necessarily regulated in the bible (did the bible even say anything about smoking pot?) if you really think that Romney is going to implement his belief in the country, you either have no understanding how american politics work or you're just an idiot. I think Romney is used to his integrity being questioned by now. I'd personally like him to give his reasons regardless, except he doesn't really have any. He wasn't asked about legalization of marijuana, he was asked medical marijuana. Which he has even less of a reason to be against, and yet he is. Again, there's very little reason behind it. The Bible may not be against it but mormonism certainly is. I've no problem with a man having religious belief being in power, I have a problem when his beliefs make up his judgement. Which, considering his stances on abortion and gay marriage, he appears to be allowing. -------------------
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Lazzara #riseabovehate 4 lyf Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13262 since: Mar 2004	Nov 05, 12 at 10:50am ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	quote Star of Spurs I think Romney is used to his integrity being questioned by now. I'd personally like him to give his reasons regardless, except he doesn't really have any. He wasn't asked about legalization of marijuana, he was asked medical marijuana. Which he has even less of a reason to be against, and yet he is. Again, there's very little reason behind it. The Bible may not be against it but mormonism certainly is. I've no problem with a man having religious belief being in power, I have a problem when his beliefs make up his judgement. Which, considering his stances on abortion and gay marriage, he appears to be allowing. He states that marijuana could lead to harder drugs. but again, Obama is also the opponent of legalization of marijuana. Romney's going to fight the legalization, I'm aware, but he still needs the approval of supreme court as well as the congress. He opposes the legalization of medical marijuana because the system can easily be abused, it's really not that hard to comprehend. Tell your doctor that you have depression and they'll prescribe you anti-depressant. And I fail to see how mormonism has anything to do with marijuana, you can probably try to enlighten me. he allows abortion at a certain condition and he doesn't allow gay marriage (though he really has no say in it) because of his party affiliation. it has little to do with his belief. ------------------- i will stand, take my stand at the back the motherbleeping bus cuz im a proud ass bleep ✪ Fandango Crew ✪
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Halo_Asassin N'Somniac since: Mar 2006	Nov 05, 12 at 11:04am ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	quote Lazzara quote Star of Spurs Always a bit poor if you can't justify it mind. why he might want to vote for romney instead: obama approves drone strikes failed to close guantanamo bay (it was one of his promises in 2008 too) did not end the war in iraq/ afghanistan; then we have egypt, libya and syria promised to cut the deficit, but adds trillions to the deficit if this happened to a republican candidate, say this all happened during bush's first term, would you want to vote for the same person? let's just be honest now He did NOT add trillions to the deficit. See, you're getting the deficit and debt mixed up. The deficit for this year is actually about 0.1 trillion lower than it was the year he took office. Now, he promised he'd cut it in half, which he didn't do, but he did cut it. And Romney loves drone strikes just as much as Obama, he wouldn't have even attempted to close Guantanamo, and he doesn't want to end the wars any more than Obama does. In fact, he's much more likely to start a new war with Iran than Obama is. Yeah, Obama might be shitty, but Romney is undoubtedly shittier. quote Lazzara 47% of americans don't pay taxes; surely he's got a point? these people rely on welfare benefits while the 53% of americans work their asses off only for their income to get redistributed to people who don't necessarily deserve it. This is completely false. 47% don't pay federal income taxes, but most of them pay payroll taxes. If you think 47% of America receives welfare you're out of your bleeping mind. -------------------
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Lazzara #riseabovehate 4 lyf Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13262 since: Mar 2004	Nov 05, 12 at 11:38am ^ Presidential Election 2012
	The obama's presidency records 1 trillion budget deficit for 4 consecutive years, so the deficit is increasing. And romney didn't promise any of those, not sure why he'd be accountable for something he never promised in the first place. Never said 47 percent of americans receive welfare benefit, but they're still the free riders in the bigger picture. If you're planning to have a socialist healthcare, then impose socialist taxes to your citizens. ------------------- i will stand, take my stand at the back the motherbleeping bus cuz im a proud ass bleep ✪ Fandango Crew ✪
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XxSkelterXx “Dubito ergo cogito; cogito ergo sum. Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13294 since: Aug 2010	Nov 05, 12 at 12:03pm ^ Presidential Election 2012
	Well, I was undecided, then I saw the first debate and I thought to myself, you know what? Maybe I should vote republican for the first time ever. Then I saw the second and third debates and I figured I was better off for democrat, So I will be voting for Obama.
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Corruption Everything by Animalover Neo or Bust total posts: 7506 since: Jul 2004	Nov 05, 12 at 12:24pm ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	Voting for Zomney SOLELY because of this. We may never get another chance to have the Zombie Apocalypse become a reality. ------------------- Heaven or Hell? [A Collection of Short Stories]
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Halo_Asassin N'Somniac since: Mar 2006	Nov 05, 12 at 12:31pm ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	quote Lazzara The obama's presidency records 1 trillion budget deficit for 4 consecutive years, so the deficit is increasing. Jesus christ. If he records a 1 trillion budget deficit for 4 consecutive years, how is it increasing? The DEBT is increasing. And nobody would be able to decrease the debt in the current economic climate. Hell, we had debt even after the economic boom of the 90's. quote Lazzara And romney didn't promise any of those, not sure why he'd be accountable for something he never promised in the first place. It shouldn't have anything to do with whether they were promised or not. It should be whether or not they're good ideas. If you want Guantanamo closed, then it's a reason for you to support Obama because, despite the fact that he promised to close it and failed to, you've got a much better chance of it happening under him than Romney. And if you don't want it closed, then it shouldn't matter to you. As far as drones and ending the wars, Obama didn't break any promises. In fact, he made it clear that he'd ramp up the war in Afghanistan, which he did. quote Lazzara Never said 47 percent of americans receive welfare benefit, Except you totally did. quote Lazzara 47% of americans don't pay taxes; surely he's got a point? these people rely on welfare benefits quote Lazzara but they're still the free riders in the bigger picture. If you're planning to have a socialist healthcare, Which Obama is not, unless you count things like medicare and medicaid, but those existed long before he took office. quote Lazzara then impose socialist taxes to your citizens. Do you even know what socialist MEANS? Taxes are socialist in and of themselves. There's no such thing as "socialist taxes." There's just taxes. And the most of the 47% of people who don't pay federal income taxes pay payroll taxes, which is generally about 20-25% of their salary. -------------------
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Lazzara #riseabovehate 4 lyf Permanently Plugged In total posts: 13262 since: Mar 2004	Nov 05, 12 at 1:55pm ^ re: Presidential Election 2012
	Woops, I didn't mean to say 47% relied on welfare benefits, my bad. When you're constantly spending beyond your allocated money (hence the deficit), are you not going to increase your overall deficit? I'm not talking about this year's budget deficit is lower than last year's, I'm talking about the total amount of money spent overall DUE to the deficit. So yes, constant budget deficit leads to more debt. And the point isn't whether romney's gonna end the war or close g-bay. The point is about fulfilling the promise he made. Obamacare is effective in 2010; hardly long existed before he took office. To insure everyone with healthcare would be nice, yes. But it's hardly sustainable when only 53% pay the income tax. 4% deducted from payroll tax is sure a lot. And as I said before, if he's gonna impose socialist program like obamacare (among other things related to govt benefits), then he should be taxing the citizens 50 - 60% of their incomes like in other socialist nations. At this rate, obamacare is going to end up like romneycare. ------------------- i will stand, take my stand at the back the motherbleeping bus cuz im a proud ass bleep ✪ Fandango Crew ✪
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