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Styot Gott mit uns Neo or Bust total posts: 7243 since: Feb 2007	Aug 04, 12 at 1:44pm ^ re: WTF?
	Log in to remove this sponsored message Unfortunately for some bizarre reason a lot of people seem think doing good has something to do with religion, and in this guys case specifically Christianity. I hope you told him you're not a Christian, bust the stereotype one jackass at a time. -------------------
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Twilight [psycho] logy Seeketh Maximus total posts: 5606 since: May 2009	Aug 04, 12 at 2:00pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote NB quote Master Tenku You're white and in America. It would be the most obvious connection to make if he assumes that most white people are christian and most christians are good people. What about us black people? Racism is still alive and well, sadly. Trayvon Martin for example. Black, assumed to be bad. But I'm assuming you already knew that and this is a question that I need not answered. -------------------
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Vex the Pirate Come in my meowth? True Addiction total posts: 17579 since: Aug 2004	Aug 04, 12 at 2:15pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote DG Actually that's a pretty disgusting bigoted way for someone to look at society. Assume everyone doing something good is a member of your religion. Assuming everyone doing something bad is not. You're effectively insulting all non-Christians by doing that. Saying you think they are morally inferior scum who do not help people. Didn't say it was a fabulous generalisation pal ------------------- ort
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Cobalt True Addiction total posts: 19984 since: Mar 2008	Aug 04, 12 at 2:24pm ^ re: WTF?
	To clear things up since Chaos Team obviously thought too much into what I said by either misunderstanding what I said, or more likely just not getting it. I'm not saying I was offended or mad he said it. I do believe in god, but I am not Christian. So it baffled me he would just assume I was for helping. Just makes me wonder why I have to be a Christian to help. I don't in any way believe in the Christian god or associate with religion. I'm a firm believer there is a god or higher power, I just think the Christians are wrong. All things aside, I was just happy something so small like this could make another person so happy you helped them. There is fake appreciation, but you can tell. He really appreciated it. quote Zero quote Chaos Team Is it a bad thing that he called you that? Like seriously? The poor guy was just giving you a compliment; does it really bother you so much that he worded it like that that you have to be so anal about it? Christian or not, he was just saying you were a good person. CTedit: OH wait nevermind, it's cobalt. Makes sense now. I'm guessing you're a Christian... Chances are he is since most Christians I've met get offended when stuff like this happens. quote Chaos Team Is it a bad thing that he called you that? Like seriously? The poor guy was just giving you a compliment; does it really bother you so much that he worded it like that that you have to be so anal about it? Christian or not, he was just saying you were a good person. CTedit: OH wait nevermind, it's cobalt. Makes sense now. Chill out bud. It was out of genuine concern. It baffled me I was assumed to be Christian for helping out. quote Styot Unfortunately for some bizarre reason a lot of people seem think doing good has something to do with religion, and in this guys case specifically Christianity. I hope you told him you're not a Christian, bust the stereotype one jackass at a time. It was already starting to rain as I felt drops of it. I didn't have time and like I said I was in a bad area of the city where it isn't uncommon for bad stuff to happen. ------------------- Pets
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D-G BANG CruisiN' total posts: 22187 since: Mar 2003	Aug 04, 12 at 2:35pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote Vex the Pirate quote DG Actually that's a pretty disgusting bigoted way for someone to look at society. Assume everyone doing something good is a member of your religion. Assuming everyone doing something bad is not. You're effectively insulting all non-Christians by doing that. Saying you think they are morally inferior scum who do not help people. Didn't say it was a fabulous generalisation pal No. I was just responding to what you said about it not being a big deal. If you think about it it's really quite insulting. -------------------
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Vex the Pirate Come in my meowth? True Addiction total posts: 17579 since: Aug 2004	Aug 04, 12 at 2:59pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote DG No. I was just responding to what you said about it not being a big deal. If you think about it it's really quite insulting. Yeah, if you think too hard into a lot of things they're probably insulting. It was a casual friendly comment and he clearly didn't mean anything by it so it's not really a big deal ------------------- ort
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D-G BANG CruisiN' total posts: 22187 since: Mar 2003	Aug 04, 12 at 3:44pm ^ re: WTF?
	Oh he didn't mean anything by it but his bigotry is still unpleasant. I mean, imagine if someone did the same thing only with something other than religion. You help a blind lady across the street and she says "OH WHAT A NICE WHITE PERSON YOU ARE". -------------------
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Rome Hooah CruisiN' total posts: 20063 since: Aug 2006	Aug 04, 12 at 3:57pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote Stitch I'm asuming it's probably a methophor, as in a Good Samaritan, something like that. Atleast it's a compliment. You'd think it would be more likely for a Christian to say, "Good Samaritan," lol. -------------------
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Marc Stillers s-e-e-k-e-r total posts: 1882 since: Jan 2008	Aug 04, 12 at 3:58pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote The Pursuit quote Master Tenku You're white and in America. It would be the most obvious connection to make if he assumes that most white people are christian and most christians are good people. Yeah pretty much this all the way. It depends where you are in America. Possibly you where in the south or maybe the guy was from the south? -------------------
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Stitch moderator Action [PS3] Loungin' total posts: 13983 neopoints: 305 GameGrep pts: 472 since: Dec 2004	Aug 04, 12 at 4:19pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote Rome You'd think it would be more likely for a Christian to say, "Good Samaritan," lol. All I'm thinking is not digging to deep of the meaning of the word, and just take it as a sort of gratitude, compliment of your helpfull deed, or whatever. It's a good thing, that's basically it, why go into details for useless biggering? It's like a woman saying "what's up, guys!" to a group of Girlfriends. Would they care to debate on the mere meaning of that word, would they even give a damn, all they know it's what it basically means, just a funny or cheerful way to greet people, even though, she could say Gals/Girls, instead of Guys, because that would imply those girls are all men, but seriously, who would give a shit? It's not meant something bad by it, one that thinks like that needs to lighten up if they take offense, or start thinking to deeply about it into details for what a certain word stands for. Seriously? -------------------
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SilentScream True Addiction since: Dec 2002	Aug 04, 12 at 7:35pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote Cobalt I know a good christian man when I see one. The ADACITAY!!!!
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The Hazard Liquor at the front, poker in the rear Elite Seeker total posts: 31540 GameGrep pts: 229 since: Dec 2004	Aug 04, 12 at 10:48pm ^ re: WTF?
	quote DG quote Vex the Pirate He's probably just a christian himself and thought since you were a good person doing a good thing you'd also be christian. It's kind of obvious and not really a big deal tbh Actually that's a pretty disgusting bigoted way for someone to look at society. Assume everyone doing something good is a member of your religion. Assuming everyone doing something bad is not. You're effectively insulting all non-Christians by doing that. Saying you think they are morally inferior scum who do not help people. haha, "morally inferior scum" don't go that far. Well, the fact of the matter is Christians generally help people. Non-Christians also help people. But some don't. The non-religious also help people. But some don't. And some would've probably decided to jack his car right there and then. Yeah, I can play that card too. But the point seems pretty clear to me without bringing in bigotry into the equation. My assessment is that he has a lesser opinion of non-Christians (or atheists) for a reason.
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D-G BANG CruisiN' total posts: 22187 since: Mar 2003	Aug 05, 12 at 3:50am ^ re: WTF?
	quote The Hazard My assessment is that he has a lesser opinion of non-Christians (or atheists) for a reason. Of course that's still making an unfair generalisation. Personally I think less of people who do "good things" because magical invisible sky wizard said they need to do good things in order to get nice rewards after death. Someone who does a good thing for no reward is the better person. -------------------
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Styot Gott mit uns Neo or Bust total posts: 7243 since: Feb 2007	Aug 05, 12 at 4:00am ^ re: WTF?
	quote The Hazard My assessment is that he has a lesser opinion of non-Christians (or atheists) for a reason. That he's a bigoted arsehole? Or are you trying to say he's justified in thinking Christians have a higher moral standard then anyone else? In fact statistically speaking in America he's much more more likely to have his car jacked by a Christian then an Atheist (even taking account of the massive population difference of the two groups), yeah I can play that card too. I don't want to get into a game of One-upmanship but it seemed like you were saying he'd be right to have a higher opinion of Christians with regards to helping people and not engaging in crime, which is extremely insulting and counter to the facts. -------------------
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The Hazard Liquor at the front, poker in the rear Elite Seeker total posts: 31540 GameGrep pts: 229 since: Dec 2004	Aug 05, 12 at 5:02am ^ re: WTF?
	quote DG Personally I think less of people who do "good things" because magical invisible sky wizard said they need to do good things in order to get nice rewards after death. Someone who does a good thing for no reward is the better person. i would've never expected that holy shit Considering they do good things for an invisible magical sky wizard as you say, they also do it for no reward. Because they damn sure won't see any immediate rewards either. They do things relying on the faith that something good will happen only once they give out their last breath, which is also farfetched, as said coming from you hundreds of times, right? quote Styot Or are you trying to say he's justified in thinking Christians have a higher moral standard then anyone else? In fact statistically speaking in America he's much more more likely to have his car jacked by a Christian then an Atheist (even taking account of the massive population difference of the two groups), yeah I can play that card too. I don't want to get into a game of One-upmanship but it seemed like you were saying he'd be right to have a higher opinion of Christians with regards to helping people and not engaging in crime, which is extremely insulting and counter to the facts. I'm not saying he'd be justified in thinking that. But I would say I don't blame him. Statistically speaking, huh? I'd like to see any kind of stat or poll that verifies that. Either you pulled that out of your ass or America's more messed up than I thought. Your pick... nice card played though. And not only did I not say anything but saying this counters the facts is asinine. There are no "facts" here, none you have delivered or can stand behind with overwhelming evidence. Everything is still subjective opinion so far, insulting I could see why but when you're trying to twist things your way by a stretch of the imagination because someone also assumed shit, it doesn't help your stance either way.
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