Topic: PC Gaming Build (For Rift+more)
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bezekielgnewseeker total posts: 12 since: Mar 2011 |
PC Gaming Build (For Rift+more)
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Hello everyone  I am very new to building computers as I have never done it before and, after compiling certain parts from builds around the internet, I have decided to go ahead with building my own. I have my parts posted below and I would really appreciate it if you all could tell me if the parts are all compatible with each other and if they will run what I'd like them to run. I'd like to run Rift as well as most (if not all) current games (possibly including Crysis and Metro). My budget is $1500, which is high for a gaming computer as I understand it, but I want this to last for at least a little while (able to run anything I throw at it at max with minimum or no lag for the next year or two). So here it is (Well, half of it. The forum won't let me post certain words in it too many times...I'll post the rest below). All and any feedback is highly appreciated. Thanks so much for the help Case: COOLER MASTER HAF 922 RC-922M-KKN1-GP Black Steel + Plastic and Mesh Bezel ATX Mid Tower Computer Case http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119197Motherboard: ASUS P8P67-M Pro B3 Intel P67 Motherboard - ATX, Socket H2 (LGA 1155), Intel P67 Express, 2200MHz DDR3 (O.C.), Gigabit LAN, 8-Channel Audio, SATA 6.0 Gb/s, SuperSpeed USB 3.0, SLI/CrossFireX Ready http://www.tigerdirect.com/applications/SearchTools/item-details.asp?EdpNo=7343084&Sku=A455-3038Video Card: SPARKLE SXX5801536D5NM GeForce GTX 580 (Fermi) 1536MB 384-bit GDDR5 PCI Express 2.0 x16 HDCP Ready SLI Support Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814187125 Power Supply: CORSAIR CMPSU-750TX 750W ATX12V / EPS12V SLI Ready CrossFire Ready 80 PLUS Certified Active PFC Compatible with Core i7 Power ... http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139006And here is the template so that I'm official with the rules. The information may be helpful as well: Budget: 1500 USD Your Location: United States Main Purpose: Gaming Multitasking: a rather moderate to high amount Games: Rift, maybe WoW, older ones such as Morrowind, maybe some intensive stuff like Crysis or Metro 2033 Resolution: I have an HDTV that has 1080i and 720p, so I'm thinking I can use that. Overclocking: I don't know enough about overclocking, really. But I think the current build I have allows it without much trouble if I decide I want to take that route. Peripherals I have: I need everything except the monitor, really. I'd like some recommendations of a proper speakers/headset, keyboard and mouse, but they don't have to fit into the 1500 dollar budget. Recycled parts: Not much to speak of here. Just the HDTV I have that I'm planning to use as a monitor. Once again, thanks so much
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bezekielgnewseeker total posts: 12 since: Mar 2011 |
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There's the rest CPU: Intel Core i7-2600K Sandy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo Boost) 4 x 256KB L2 Cache 8MB L3 Cache LGA 1155 95W Quad-Core Desktop Processor BX80623I72600K http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819115070RAM: G.SKILL Sniper 8GB (2 x 4GB) 240-Pin DDR3 SDRAM DDR3 1600 (PC3 12800) Desktop Memory Model F3-12800CL9D-8GBSR http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231416Hard Drive: SAMSUNG Spinpoint F4 HD204UI 2TB 5400 RPM SATA 3.0Gb/s 3.5" Internal Hard Drive -Bare Drive http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822152245DVD Burner: ASUS DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS Black SATA 24X DVD Burner - Bulk - OEM http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827135204Sound Card: ASUS Xonar DS 7.1 Channels PCI Interface Audio Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16829132013Fan: COOLER MASTER Megaflow 200 R4-LUS-07AR-GP 200mm Red LED Case Fan http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835103072
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hiigaranSajuuk awaits beyond the Gate of BalcoraPurely Neo  total posts: 27294 since: Dec 2005
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for $1317.90: DVD $17.99 Case $109.98 2x HDD $54.99 x2 Video Card $499.99 PSU $169.99 RAM $54.99 Mobo $134.99 CPU $219.99 you will notice some things are missing and some things seem worse than your list, so i will go through everything now...DVD was the cheapest as thats all you need, case is the same, you have two hard drives that are 1TB each, because the hard drive you chose has lower performance, but a faster 2TB hard drive was more expensive than two single 1TB drives, the video card is more expensive than the one you have, but it runs at faster clocks, the PSU has a lower wattage rating, but is the best PSU for efficiency, meaning that you pay less in electricity bills for your computer, and also, you dont need 750 watts because you dont consume that much power, the RAM is only 4 gigs because todays games dont even consume that much. i have selected a single stick of 4 GB so that you can upgrade in the future if you want, but i doubt you will need to for a long time. nothing special about the mobo, and the CPU is 0.1Ghz slower than the one you chose, but it comes with a much lower price tag. you can overclock that yourself, but if you dont ever wish to overclock, you can save another 10 bucks by going for the locked multiplier version. now i know some others are going to come in and suggest something other than a GTX 580 because it is overpriced, but considering that the SB mobos prices are immensely jacked up for even x8 x8 speeds, a single, more powerful card is a better choice. as for the keyboard and mouse, thats really user preference. are you looking for something standard, or gamer? if the latter, youre looking at paying much more for them.
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Just wanted to point out that you need at least two sticks of RAM for dual channel to work.
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hiigaranSajuuk awaits beyond the Gate of BalcoraPurely Neo total posts: 27294 since: Dec 2005
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correct, but its not needed to work. you can still have one stick and have it work fine. while dual channel mode theoretically allows double the data bandwidth, that doesnt mean double the performance. think of it like the pci-e speeds. the performance gain would be marginal.
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bezekielgnewseeker total posts: 12 since: Mar 2011 |
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quote hiigaran
for $1317.90: DVD $17.99 Case $109.98 2x HDD $54.99 x2 Video Card $499.99 PSU $169.99 RAM $54.99 Mobo $134.99 CPU $219.99 you will notice some things are missing and some things seem worse than your list, so i will go through everything now...DVD was the cheapest as thats all you need, case is the same, you have two hard drives that are 1TB each, because the hard drive you chose has lower performance, but a faster 2TB hard drive was more expensive than two single 1TB drives, the video card is more expensive than the one you have, but it runs at faster clocks, the PSU has a lower wattage rating, but is the best PSU for efficiency, meaning that you pay less in electricity bills for your computer, and also, you dont need 750 watts because you dont consume that much power, the RAM is only 4 gigs because todays games dont even consume that much. i have selected a single stick of 4 GB so that you can upgrade in the future if you want, but i doubt you will need to for a long time. nothing special about the mobo, and the CPU is 0.1Ghz slower than the one you chose, but it comes with a much lower price tag. you can overclock that yourself, but if you dont ever wish to overclock, you can save another 10 bucks by going for the locked multiplier version. now i know some others are going to come in and suggest something other than a GTX 580 because it is overpriced, but considering that the SB mobos prices are immensely jacked up for even x8 x8 speeds, a single, more powerful card is a better choice. as for the keyboard and mouse, thats really user preference. are you looking for something standard, or gamer? if the latter, youre looking at paying much more for them. This looks great. I'm assuming the sound card is unnecessary. I might pick up one anyway as I've been dealing with macbook speakers for the past three years... And I figure I can always throw in another stick of RAM if I so desire, but as you say, I shouldn't need to. I might just get a standard keyboard and mouse for now and upgrade later. It would be nice to have a keyboard that lights up and a mouse with four billion buttons, but the actual pc is where the bulk of the effort should go, I would think. I do need a decent headset, though, if you have any ideas on that. If I wanted to, could I put another video card in there later on? I know it would be overkill right now (and I certainly don't have the money to do so), but in the future? Thanks so much for your help, hiigaran
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hiigaranSajuuk awaits beyond the Gate of BalcoraPurely Neo total posts: 27294 since: Dec 2005
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quoteThis looks great. I'm assuming the sound card is unnecessary. I might pick up one anyway as I've been dealing with macbook speakers for the past three years... motherboards come with onboard sound, and these days, it is pretty high quality. getting a sound card would only be beneficial to you if you were a professional audio user. quoteI do need a decent headset, though, if you have any ideas on that. sorry, im not a headset person. quoteIf I wanted to, could I put another video card in there later on? I know it would be overkill right now (and I certainly don't have the money to do so), but in the future? a cheap card dedicated to physx perhaps, but the motherboards second pci-e slot only has x4 speeds, so youd lose some performance on the second card. the problem is that the other motherboard with better capabilities were much higher priced.
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bezekielgnewseeker total posts: 12 since: Mar 2011 |
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quote hiigaran
quoteIf I wanted to, could I put another video card in there later on? I know it would be overkill right now (and I certainly don't have the money to do so), but in the future? a cheap card dedicated to physx perhaps, but the motherboards second pci-e slot only has x4 speeds, so youd lose some performance on the second card. the problem is that the other motherboard with better capabilities were much higher priced. How much more expensive? I'm kind of just curious. Thanks again. I'm pretty sure I will go with this build and be purchasing the parts within the next week. Hopefully I won't have too much trouble actually putting it all together...
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Trafalgarthe Classical Sauce(moderator)Steam total posts: 5120 neopoints: 160 since: Dec 2003
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This is the cheapest on the list that would adequately support (ie. in at least x8/x8 configuration) dual graphics cards, as well as supporting the Sandy Bridge processor Hii listed.
As for a headset, I have a Creative Fatal1ty HS800. Bit bassy for music and may take a little getting used to if you're used to - say - iPod earphones or something, but very good for games. Mic is great quality, too. And it's cheap.
As for a cheap gaming mouse... I'd go with the Logitech MX518. It's cheap 'cos it's old, but I've been using mine for over 7 years now and it's always been fantastic. Sure, it's optical and has a low polling rate compared to the high-spec gaming mice of today, but it's got on-the-fly sensitivity changing and two thumb buttons. I recently tried to upgrade to the CM Storm Sentinel Advance, but moved back to my 518 because I found it wasn't as good. For gaming, the keyboard doesn't really matter tbh.
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bezekielgnewseeker total posts: 12 since: Mar 2011 |
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quote Trafalgar
This is the cheapest on the list that would adequately support (ie. in at least x8/x8 configuration) dual graphics cards, as well as supporting the Sandy Bridge processor Hii listed.
As for a headset, I have a Creative Fatal1ty HS800. Bit bassy for music and may take a little getting used to if you're used to - say - iPod earphones or something, but very good for games. Mic is great quality, too. And it's cheap.
As for a cheap gaming mouse... I'd go with the Logitech MX518. It's cheap 'cos it's old, but I've been using mine for over 7 years now and it's always been fantastic. Sure, it's optical and has a low polling rate compared to the high-spec gaming mice of today, but it's got on-the-fly sensitivity changing and two thumb buttons. I recently tried to upgrade to the CM Storm Sentinel Advance, but moved back to my 518 because I found it wasn't as good. For gaming, the keyboard doesn't really matter tbh. Hmm...that price is not bad at all. I think I'd shell out up to 250 for the mobo if I knew it could fully support two graphics cards at 16x (I think 16x is the amount that my currently selected one can do with only one...). Is there something like this? I will take your suggestions on the headset and mouse and pick up both of those. They look reliable. I'll pick up a decent keyboard simply for word processing purposes if it doesn't really matter.
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hiigaranSajuuk awaits beyond the Gate of BalcoraPurely Neo total posts: 27294 since: Dec 2005
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if you are going to get a mobo that supports x8x8 or faster, get two GTX 570s. youre going to be going over your budget, and while two 570s are much faster than a single 580, they are cheaper per performance unit.
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bezekielgnewseeker total posts: 12 since: Mar 2011 |
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quote hiigaran
if you are going to get a mobo that supports x8x8 or faster, get two GTX 570s. youre going to be going over your budget, and while two 570s are much faster than a single 580, they are cheaper per performance unit.
Would it be a viable option for me to get the mobo that supports x8x8 or faster and just one 570 for now and then add the second later if necessary? I'm assuming one 570 shouldn't be much slower than a 580. And is it possible to mix a 580 with a 570? Sorry about all the questions...I'm trying to learn about all this..
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Trafalgarthe Classical Sauce(moderator)Steamtotal posts: 5120 neopoints: 160 since: Dec 2003
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Boards that allow you to use x16/x16 configurations are really an unnecessary expenditure, as the performance increase compared to x8/x8 with today's GPUs is around 1% or 2%. And it's impossible to have true x16/x16 configs on a P67 board (ie. one that supports that processor). You'd have to go with an X58 board for that... or get a P67 board with an NF200 bridge. Which would be very expensive. And a waste of cash!
EDIT: As for the 570 vs. the 580... the 580 is a fair amount faster (the current fastest single-GPU card on the consumer market, in fact). It's also $100 more expensive, though. And if you ever put two of those babies together in one system... well, I'd envy you!
As for SLI with two different cards: not possible, I'm afraid. They have to be the same model; AMD cards, however, can be combined provided they're in the same series.
EDIT2: I just read that the 580 is 20% faster for 35% more cash. Unverified forum post, but sounds about right. 570 is better value, as Hii said.
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bezekielgnewseeker total posts: 12 since: Mar 2011 |
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quote Trafalgar
Boards that allow you to use x16/x16 configurations are really an unnecessary expenditure, as the performance increase compared to x8/x8 with today's GPUs is around 1% or 2%. And it's impossible to have true x16/x16 configs on a P67 board (ie. one that supports that processor). You'd have to go with an X58 board for that... or get a P67 board with an NF200 bridge. Which would be very expensive. And a waste of cash!
EDIT: As for the 570 vs. the 580... the 580 is a fair amount faster (the current fastest single-GPU card on the consumer market, in fact). It's also $100 more expensive, though. And if you ever put two of those babies together in one system... well, I'd envy you!
As for SLI with two different cards: not possible, I'm afraid. They have to be the same model; AMD cards, however, can be combined provided they're in the same series.
I'm highly considering going with the x8/x8 board (is there a specific one either of you would suggest? that one from earlier was sold out) and getting one 580 and just assume that I'd buy another 580 if I wanted to get another card. Is this a good idea?
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hiigaranSajuuk awaits beyond the Gate of BalcoraPurely Neo total posts: 27294 since: Dec 2005
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quoteBoards that allow you to use x16/x16 configurations are really an unnecessary expenditure i cant emphasise that enough. x8 speeds are still good. you lose at most 3% of GPU performance (based on 5 minutes of google searches).
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