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Topic: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)
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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

The reason why Aeris may have been able to embody herself in a physical presence in AC is probably because she is a Cetra.

Cetra are beings that can communicate with the planet, so once they actually become a part of it (When they die), perhaps they can still communicate through the planet to people in the living world.

Of course, Cloud is the only person that seems to be able to see her, as nobody else could see her, besides those two kids (Could they have been the same two kids that hung around the church in the original FF7?).



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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

Hmm possible Ray, Well in essence FFX and FF7 are connected in the fact that the people don't die in a sense and become spiritual and be able to talk to people. But i get what you mean torebaa its very similar. Well let me ask this what other powers does the cetra have anyway, I mean we still haven't seen there potential or Sephys for that matter.

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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

Was something proven about that theory of "Spira = FF7's planet" yet?

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[I personally expect to see Cloud walking through Midgar one day and him catching Aeris selling flowers in the corner of his eye, then her disappearing when he looks. Its the only situation corny enough for Nomura.] Although I think that perhaps ressurect is too strong a word... I think her 'spirit will manifest' or something silly like that, which is close enough to bringing her back really... if only for a little while. Regardless, I don't believe the role she took in AC will end with AC.
I totally agree with you. That scene reminded me of the part when you see her "spirit" in the church, after you go back to Midgard. It's so nostalgic.

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The chance of FFVII being remade and not altered with retcon to include references to things like G and the expanded Turks is pretty much 0% in my opinion, hence why I rarely give a damn about the prospect of a remake.
Agreed. I must add that the cartoony graphics, simple dialogs, and colorful scenarios are part of the game, too. I don't want those to go away.


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quote Fire_Fox
Was something proven about that theory of "Spira = FF7's planet" yet?
Only this.

quote Ray_Masamune
The reason why Aeris may have been able to embody herself in a physical presence in AC is probably because she is a Cetra.
What about Zack though? He also appeared at the end of AC, and I assume it would be through the same means that Aerith did. (unless that was Aerith's doing, also)



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I doubt Aeith will be making any more major appearances in the Compilation. At least, I hope she doesn't. Her "goodbye" scene in AC was pretty finalizing imo (she had helped Cloud, therefore her work was done).

Though I like the idea of minor appearances like, as Torebaa mentioned...

quote torebaa
[I personally expect to see Cloud walking through Midgar one day and him catching Aeris selling flowers in the corner of his eye, then her disappearing when he looks. Its the only situation corny enough for Nomura.]
As Fire_Fox said, she appeared as a "spirit" for a split second in the chirch, so it'd be a nice little reference to that moment for her to make a similar appearance again.

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Edit: A random question .. has anyone else thought it was weird that Aerith still had her hair tied up in AC? Her hair ribbon fell out as she died, so shouldn't her "spirit" have it's hair out?




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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

Hmm now that you mentioned it GG you make a point, though i don't know, maybe it was a mistake.

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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

By that logic, shouldn't she still have a gaping chest wound?

quote Ray_Masamune
The reason why Aeris may have been able to embody herself in a physical presence in AC is probably because she is a Cetra.

Cetra are beings that can communicate with the planet, so once they actually become a part of it (When they die), perhaps they can still communicate through the planet to people in the living world.

Of course, Cloud is the only person that seems to be able to see her, as nobody else could see her, besides those two kids (Could they have been the same two kids that hung around the church in the original FF7?).
GG brought up the logical falacy created by the Cetra argument. Zack's appearence, even for a moment, created a pretty confusing precedent.

Would it really matter who the kids were? I can't personally remember who they were, but the fact they also notice her means that the whole situation is more confusing than ever.


That FFX/ FFVII connection is pretty lame. I mean, if you didn't roll your eyes enough at FFX2 as a game, then the fact they attempted to tongue and cheek retcon a connection to FFVII should have made your eyes roll out of your head.



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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

But the fact that no one else noticed her, and the fact that she seems to appear and dissapear means that she wasn't exactly physical.

In fact, she may just be speaking in Cloud's head, and Cloud's being dellusional like he always is. XD

Regardless, if anyone could do that, I think alot more of these "spirits" would be showing up.

For example, Barret might see Dyne.

Of course, the Aeris and Zack at the end is more a tribute to them for the fans than anything else imo.



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I doubt anyone put that much though in AC to implant that actually <.<



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[size=1In fact, she may just be speaking in Cloud's head, and Cloud's being dellusional like he always is. XD
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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

Xtrordinary you would be surprised, I bet Nomura did put that into thinking. But tell me since Sephy isn't dead wouldn't that mean They will still need Aeris help again one day. If he tries a similar move in AC.

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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

Meteor and Holy are gone.

I don't really think Aeris is needed anymore.

Even if Sephiroth returned.

I think the only thing Aeris can do is act as a mental drive for Cloud and friends when facing against her killer, Sephiroth.



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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

Kinda like what she did in AC.

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*Ehh* I don't think Aerith will be playing Cloud's "guardian angel" anymore. In AC, she was really only there to give him moral support, as well as make sure he forgives himself and gets over his grief. Since, at end of AC, Cloud had realized he asn't alone and had gotten over that grief, Aerith could say her "final goodbye". Her work was done. She can return to the Lifestream, where she belongs. And Cloud can stay with his friends, where he belongs.

She might appear again, but I doubt it will be anything major. I got the impression that Squeenix don't want to go too crazy with Aerith's appearances, and might be toning it down in the future to give us that "Aerith is gone" feeling again (e.g. She made no appeaance in DoC)



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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

Well why not, i like the idea of her being a guardian angel for him. I mean its like repaying him back from him being her bodyguard IMO. I just don't like the idea of her not being involved in a FF7 game.

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re: Aeris Gainsborough - Discussion (the affection for Aeris)

He doesn't need a guardian angel anymore though. He has his living friends to look out for him now. That was what Aerith wanted. She didn't want him dwelling on the dead. He still had a life to live - with other living people.
She'll see him again when it's his turn to die. That's the way she wants things to be.

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I just don't like the idea of her not being involved in a FF7 game.
Well it's already happened once, so I wouldn't be surprised if she doesn't make any more appearances at all.

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Aerith is one of my favorite FF characters, but I don't want Squeenix to keep on adding he rto future FFVII games just to please the fans. I've accepted that she is gone, and although it's sad that she most likely won't be appearing in anymore sequel FFVII games, I'd prefer it that way. She died, and it's time for her to leave the world. She doesn't need to look out for Cloud anymore. She has accepted that he must remain with the living, and she must remain with the dead. That's just how things go.



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