For all those that don't know about her i will quickly explain the story behind Lucreicia from Final Fantasy VII.

Lucrecia & Hojo were two scientists part of the Jenova Porject. At that time Vincent who is the main hero of the DoC, was part of the Turks. Vincent was in love with Lucrecia however Lucrecia was in love with Hojo, who too was in love with her. When Vincent proposed to Lucrecia she rejected him and went with Hojo and vincent was forced to just sit there. At the tme Hojo was experimenting with Jenova Cells and implanting them into living beings, however the experiments were a failure and they were sealed in the Mako Reactor in Nibelheim.
At the news of Lucrecia's was pregnant, Hojo being an evil scientists decided that he wanted if living beings were turning out to be failures that he would inject the cells into his unborn child.
Lucrecia went through with it, however upon birth she seemed to have died. At the news of Lucrecia's death Vincent in a rage went to Hojo who knocked Vincent out cold and decided to insert Jenova Cells into him. Upon waking up Vincent was no longer a normal human, he seemed to have the ability to transform into a monster when taken to the limit. At this news he locked him self up in a coffin so Hojo couldnt use him and to punish himself for letting Lucrecia die.

However, after many years of being locked in the coffin and still being alive due to the Jenova Cells inside of him, he was released from the coffin by a group led by Cloud Strife. Vincent upon hearing about the doings of Sephiroth, he decided to join the group. Sephiroth was after all none other than Lucrecia and Hojo's son. However this was unkown to Sephiroth who at the time was actualy the only successful Jenova expirent and believed Jenova to be his actual mother, and did not know about his father.

During the course of Clouds mission to stop Sephiroth they were led into an underwater cave which held the thing Vincent loved most. It was now a hideout and home for Lucrecia. Vincent was surprised to see Lucrecia alive, but worst of all in hiding. She was surprised to Vincent, but her motherly instincts wanted to know about her Son, whom was in all respects dead.

Now what i want to see is what your theory's are about the role of Lucrecia in Final Fantasy VII: Dirge of Cerberus.

Heh well you've already seen what I've got for theories Krunal, so I'll just post the link to the other thread here. Heh, I gave you the credit you deserved for coming up with the thread. Oh yeah, I don't think she'll have anything to do with AC at all because it doesn't revolve around Vincent, but it's something to think about considering she has the J-Cells too and may have informed Vincent on some inmportant info, thus explaining why he knows so much.

This message was edited by smoke N a pancake on Mar 12 2005.

Vincent also has the J-cells, i think that maybe Vincent risks his life to actualy find Lucrecia or something.

I always thought that Sephiorth would be Vincent's son or something. That theroy was alway unclear to me for some reason. Who would have that Hojo was stronger than Vincent in the first place?

Not only that, but this also brings up alot of more theorys about the legendary game Final Fantasy 7.

Guess the FF Master has to give his 2 cents, here is what I posted in the other thread:

Hojo did impregnate Lucrecia and is Sephiroth's father. That much is a fact. She may of loved him or not but I did find out that Lucrecia the name in fact comes from a poem "The Rape of Lucrecia". You can derive your own opinions from that.

The reason she does not make an appearance in the sequel I believe is because she is dead. In the end she asked Vincent if Sephiroth was dead, she had heard of his death but dreamed he was alive. Vincent then lied and said he was dead. This could of set her free of her bond to that world and let her die in peace. Also explains why when you get Vincents final weapon later she is nowhere to be found.

Many people have believed that Sephiroth is the son of Vincent, however i for one am against this theory, and i dont think anything like that happened. Even if there was more of a relationship between Vincent and Lucrecia, i believe that Hojo is the real father of Sephiroth. Otherwise i think Vincent would have had second thoughts on killing his son, especially as he was the remaining links to Lucrecia, even after he found her alive, hed have wanted to spend time with his son and not help in killing him.

Good post, i was just wondering why it didnt go in the theories thread just for the sheer hell of it, oh well, really good job!

Well, i thought about that, but i really wanted to make this a Lucrecia only thread, i want to theorise if she will be in the game and what role she will play, and i dont think there would be much discussion in that thread

There is no discussion about it, Hojo is the father. Why do you think Lucrecia turned down Vincent's proposal? She did love Hojo I believe until he turned psychotic and obsessive with his experiments.

Well fact or not people will always discuss back and forth that Vincent could have possibly been Sephiroth's father. Lucretia may have been intimate with both Vincent and Hojo, it is not unheard of. She just ultimatly chose Hojo. And paid the price for her choice.

(Although this boggles the mind for me.... but I guess where I am such a Vincent fan I can't imagine anyone picking freakin' Hojo over Vincent...)

Regardless of whether Vincent was Sephiroth's father or not if he wanted to protect whatever remained of Lucrecia on the earth, she is still his mother and Vincent would have been unable to battle him. But he saw that the planet's fate was more important than trying to keep that last piece of Lucrecia alive.

Personally in FFVII I thought she was a ghost, not actually her, but I am sure there are many people that disagree with that.

She was such an important part of Vincent and what happened to him, that I wouldn't put some involvement on her part out of the question in this game, although it might just be flashbacks.

Wow! FFVII/FFVII:AC Spoilers to be found in this post!

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Referring to her death, it is only suitable that you consider her pointing out that she can't die because of the Jenova Cells in her body. Aside, we all thought that Sephiroth died, but as we know he comes back strong as ever (in AC). Because of this, I'll have to say that she is still alive, hiding out somewhere possibly. Yes, nearly all clues point to Hojo as the father, so it's only suitable that he be thought of as such. Of course, you can't deny that Lucrecia deeply regrets doing anything with Hojo, as most would. I feel that she feels guilt for leaving Vincent and may therefore make an appearance in DoC.

Well, now duh! Now that you mention the J-Cell thing, I see that you are right considering her still being around.

As for Hojo....I don't know if he had that mad receeding hairline back when she picked him, but if she did, I think it is a possiblity to think that Lucrecia may be partially blind or something.

(Disclaimer: the previous staement is said in jest. )

Ok, you all are forgetting the most important thing, the Hojo we see is an OLD man, the Hojo that would have been would have looked as young as Vincent, and therefore he may have even looked (and i know your gona shout at me for saying this but...) good. Vincent has looked the same for many years because he also has J-cells inside of him giving him the ability to stay alive for longer. So basicaly Hojo may have been more of a looker and may have actaly had a personality at one point, and so Lucretia went with him, but then he turned to be the mad little scientist he now is, and did what ever he could to make jenova whole again. We clearly know that you cant be killed easily if you have J-Cells inside of you, however i believe that you can still be killed, there has to be a way with which Sephy will finally be put to rest.
Maybe its the volume of Jenova cells inside of them that gives them mortality, but im sure that Vincent will try to find Lucretia once again, it may actualy be the reason for his involvement in the whole game.

Judging by the 3D models of Hojo at the time, I'd say he looks much the same, and I'm certain his personality wasn't that different either; about the time he learned of Jenova is probably when he went mad with his love for science. I do know that the game couldn't do much for characters' looks, but I'm pretty sure we can all say it was a bad call by Lucrecia.

First of all they are scientists, there was chemistry there (no pun intended) and Vincent sad to say didn't stand a chance. She loved Hojo and had a child with him, however Hojo loved his work more and because he had no success with a grown specimen he wished to try an unborn one. That's how it went, at the time Vincent didn't stand a chance which is why she turned him down because she loved Hojo and had his child.

Also Lucrecia is dead, if you check the other thread in the FF7 forum I think I noted it pretty well.

I would be very surprized if it turns out she is alive because the way they do the dialogue and story her death seemed about certain. 90% sure myself that she killed herself or died in some way after Vincent told her of Sephiroth's death, 99% sure Hojo is the father.