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XFX GeFORCE 8800GTX XXX Review - PAGE 1

, J. Micah Grunert
- Thursday, January 25th, 2007
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axforts2212 Jan 30, 07
30FPS is about real time I want to say? Well it is playable, and smooth. anything above 30FPS(40FPS+) will be very nice for gaming.
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D-G Jan 30, 07
Anything over 30? So basically both the GTS and the GTX are godlike? You see, I'm trying to work out which to get. I'd need to get a huge and super heavy case with the GTX... and it would need to sit on a possibly fragile desk-type-surface-thingy...
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URLORD Jan 31, 07
quote DG
Anything over 30? So basically both the GTS and the GTX are godlike? You see, I'm trying to work out which to get. I'd need to get a huge and super heavy case with the GTX... and it would need to sit on a possibly fragile desk-type-surface-thingy...
Just for your information; the human eye perceives motion at 30fps, below that it is noticeable in terms of lag,above 30fps the eye can't notice the difference. When a benchmark states that a card, the gtx for example, can run a game, lets say Oblivion, at max 88 fps at 1920x1200(24" monitor) with all details maxed out it means that the card is powerful enough to give you that level of detail. 88fps sound great but its not the whole picture; any game you play will have a minimum ,an average, and a maximum fps level.
Using said example again you will get a minimum fps=28, avg=45.8, max=88. So while you will playing the game for most of the time above 30fps, you will get lag in some particularly heavy detailed areas of the game.
By lowering the resolution and or reducing the level of detail in the game you will get better performance,ie: higher fps. In most games if you lower your AA and or shadowing you will get a large jump in fps without really noticing the drop in the level of detail.
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Cheesysoapopra Jan 31, 07
The human eye will percive anything above 24FPS as a smooth image. If you're playing a game at a constant 60FPS, compared to a constant 24FPS, both will look like smooth images. Though I can seriously tell the difference between the two, the 24FPS is still a smooth moving image to my eye.

However, if you are playing a game at 60FPS, and then all of a suddon you drop to 30FPS, you WILL notice the drop. People love to go textbook on this and say that isn't true, but go ahead and try it. Go ahead and play something at 60fps, then play something at 24fps, you should notice that there is a difference in smoothness, though the 24fps is still smooth, but compare the two, and the lower one will look like a chop fest.
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Iceguy2003 Jan 31, 07
That's how I am. I know everyone 'says' that 30fps is the eye's limit... but I can tell a difference in games in 40, 50, and maybe 60fps. I can't tell anything different over 60fps I don't think, but definitely in the 40's, I can tell easily. I don't know, maybe that's just the average human eye. We have been gaming since we were young and know what to look for. Well, I've been gaming since I was 10, it started out with Cyberia (from the mid-90's) and Decent, then led to Monster Truck Madness 2 (greatest game of all time, lol), and then to HL...etc., etc., I won't go into my gaming history tree. That's just PC gaming... I got my first NES (regular Nintendo) when I was 4, it's when they just came out, I think.
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URLORD Jan 31, 07
quote Cheesysoapopra
The human eye will percive anything above 24FPS as a smooth image. If you're playing a game at a constant 60FPS, compared to a constant 24FPS, both will look like smooth images. Though I can seriously tell the difference between the two, the 24FPS is still a smooth moving image to my eye.

However, if you are playing a game at 60FPS, and then all of a suddon you drop to 30FPS, you WILL notice the drop. People love to go textbook on this and say that isn't true, but go ahead and try it. Go ahead and play something at 60fps, then play something at 24fps, you should notice that there is a difference in smoothness, though the 24fps is still smooth, but compare the two, and the lower one will look like a chop fest.
Something to chew on
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D-G Jan 31, 07
I see. Hm, so basically... do you think the GTX is worth it, or should the GTS basically be fine for anyone's needs realistically?
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URLORD Feb 1, 07
Well, it's going to depend on your resolution size, and what kind of game you are playing. While the gtx is top dog, the gts is no slouch,especially if you overclock it. Check out this review of both the gtx, and the gts, now add an average of 5fps extra for the minimum for the gts when overclocked. I know I stated in an earlier post that eyesight is a 30fps limit,I was wrong, kinda. Eyesight is very subjective, but as a rule, any gameplay higher than 30fps is more enjoyable.

gts/gtx
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Cheesysoapopra Feb 1, 07
My card came in. It's freaking unreal, more powerful than I expected. Oblivion on 1920x1200 8xQAA 16XAF maxed everything possible the game runs as smooth as silk no matter what I do.
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URLORD Feb 1, 07
quote Cheesysoapopra
My card came in. It's freaking unreal, more powerful than I expected. Oblivion on 1920x1200 8xQAA 16XAF maxed everything possible the game runs as smooth as silk no matter what I do.
Glad to hear that your having fun with it. Now lets get some games that will take advantage of that damn DX10, that is, when Vista gets it head out of it's ass.
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Iceguy2003 Feb 1, 07
quote Cheesysoapopra
My card came in. It's freaking unreal, more powerful than I expected. Oblivion on 1920x1200 8xQAA 16XAF maxed everything possible the game runs as smooth as silk no matter what I do.
That is truly insane. I can't imagine 8xAA/16xAF in 1920x1200 playing smoothly. Even with all settings maxed out, including the grass view distance, you keep 45+ fps? Or what is your lowest FPS?
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tomy_b Feb 1, 07
Is that with one card?

Also, which is better, this or the BFG Water cooled 8800 GTX?

This message was edited by tomy_b on Feb 01 2007.
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Cheesysoapopra Feb 1, 07
This is with the card from EVGA, theres no raeson to buy any other brand. EVGA gives lifetime warentee, even if you OC and change the cooling.
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tomy_b Feb 1, 07
Well, just so you know, BFG also has a lifetime warranty.
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AllNamesTaken Feb 2, 07
But not if you overclock and change the cooling.
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