AMD Phenom 9600 Review - PAGE 12

I hate to say it, but the reason it got held down was the mobo. That was a notorisly bad overclocker and guess what, it held true. You should have tried a higher end board. And I'm sick and tired of people reviewing things with biased setups. The board use in coparrison to the intell chipsets board was horrible. Please, if you have the heart redo the tests with a BETTER mothorboard.

I would have loved to use a different board, but we were lent that MSI board and Phenom for only a short while - I only had 2.5 days to test it.

As soon as I can get my hands on a new stepping and a better board, I will take another look.

As for the intel boards... those boards are all great performers.

quote skatcat31

I hate to say it, but the reason it got held down was the mobo. That was a notorisly bad overclocker and guess what, it held true. You should have tried a higher end board. And I'm sick and tired of people reviewing things with biased setups. The board use in coparrison to the intell chipsets board was horrible. Please, if you have the heart redo the tests with a BETTER mothorboard.

Wel thankyou for claering that up then. sorry for the rude comments, but lately a lot of reveiwing sites have been using demos to review games... so it's just been getting to me. The fac that the board had problems supporting a 1.8v was kinda sad, meaning the board wasn't up to par... I kinda wish that they had supplied a better board. facing it against an Asus gold isn't really something fair especially if it won't support the same memory sticks.

skatcat:

The problem is that most other manufacturers are not ready to have their boards sent to reviewers. Of course to customers and stores they always say they have boards coming into the channel but in reality its not always so.

I was having this exact same conversation with Bill too: MSI isn't known for the highest overclocking boards and I suspected the board was a huge limitation. Still.. the chip's poor memory performance has nothing to do with the motherboard and that will affect any memory sensitive app - INCLUDING many of the more scaleable games (ie Quake engine)

shouldnt be a big issue actully, as long as intel stays where its at on the bus, latacy will remain high there so read write ops will take just as long on both

I have the M2N32-SLI DELUXE, Fedora8, and wondered how I might really gain from upgrading to the 9600. I see that you compared to that board, but not with the AM2+ part. Since it's currently mainly an upgrade price point, could you include an upgrade box in your followup?

why would u put it against a QX6700 for it's comparison. Shouldn't it be a Q6600 since it's 2.4ghz and the 9600 is only 2.3ghz?

Is it just me, or does Intel still have it going on with the Core 2 technology when it comes to gaming? I didn't check out the other benchmarks, yet, but I see this by just skimming through.

Intel is just cleaning house with their core 2 architecture. AMD still claims that you must use their processors with a complete spider platform to see some decent numbers. But you never see any benchmarks to test that theory. Intel is just at the top right now, plain and simple. AMD just has to play the catch up game like Intel did for the past little while before now.

hi, i just got a gateway with a phenom 9600 4gb ram hd3200 on board graphics (not sure what mother board but is similar to gigabyte) and my phenom works fine. i play game slike biohazard with no probs and its on board graphics i use. i waych hd movies and convert movies and play music etc and it runs smooth(46%cpu usage). maybe its the combinations?????wat u guys think

Glad you like the system; as I found in my last Phenom motherboard review, the HD3300 does indeed work pretty well for resolutions up to 1024x768, even better when you add a 3450 and enable Hybrid CrossFireX.

Ofcourse you can have really fast graphics by adding a 4850

quote j.harry

hi, i just got a gateway with a phenom 9600 4gb ram hd3200 on board graphics (not sure what mother board but is similar to gigabyte) and my phenom works fine. i play game slike biohazard with no probs and its on board graphics i use. i waych hd movies and convert movies and play music etc and it runs smooth(46%cpu usage). maybe its the combinations?????wat u guys think