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- Thursday, June 21st, 2007 Like Share






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Nagash Oct 3, 07
How are them compare to
SuperTalent 2GB Kit DDR2 800Mhz PC6400 4-4-3-8 T800UX2GC4 (Blue version)
http://www.supertalent.com/datasheets/T800UX2GC4%20spec.pdf
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dark41 Oct 5, 07
On the conclusion page:

"Corsair Ballistix $211 after rebate"

I assume that's supposed to be Crucial Ballistix. I also have to test the Ballistix at those timings now as I know for sure that Ballistix PC2-6400 will run 4-3-3-8 timings up to 860MHz, and 4-4-4-12 up to 1060MHz. I don't really think the 4-4-4-6 timings will show much improvement over that though.
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SPUTNIK666 Oct 5, 07
quote dark41
On the conclusion page:

"Corsair Ballistix $211 after rebate"

I assume that's supposed to be Crucial Ballistix. I also have to test the Ballistix at those timings now as I know for sure that Ballistix PC2-6400 will run 4-3-3-8 timings up to 860MHz, and 4-4-4-12 up to 1060MHz. I don't really think the 4-4-4-6 timings will show much improvement over that though.
yeah the improvment wont be obvious, but i belive getting the correct timing means more stability, and those ballistix are the best OC DIMMs i ever tested, i love them..
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dark41 Oct 5, 07
You and me both Sputnik.

Gotta say, this is another slanted and inaccurate review. I'd never tried 4-4-4-6 timings on the Ballistix.. until now. Not only do they match the G.Skill results, they beat them handily. And for the record, Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 2x1g is currently $109 at newegg.com. Best bang for the buck RAM on the planet at the moment IMO. I didn't run orthos on this, but it did complete SuperPi 1m without a problem.

Ballistix 800, 4-4-4-6 @ 1060MHz 2.15v (warrantied to 2.2v):
http://www.ultramaxcc.com.au/images/d1.jpg

Can the G.Skill do this?

Ballistix 800, 5-5-5-15 @ 1230MHz 2.1v
http://www.ultramaxcc.com.au/images/des.jpg
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SPUTNIK666 Oct 5, 07
dude!! i am so gonna order these 2GB kits and they are going on my high-end package next month!! i found them on amazone for arround 109$ aswell, am gonna look for a retailer to get a enough of these, those frequencys are undefeatable!!
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dark41 Oct 5, 07
I don't think you'll regret it Sputnik. We've got 3 sets of this RAM (Crucial Ballistix PC2-6400 2x1g) and couldn't be happier with the performance.

My personal best with these dimms is 1235MHz, not real stable but bootable, and 1210MHz on all 3 sets will run orthos all day long. I've seen them as high as 1280MHz on other forums. I'd recommend a P35 chipset to get the most out of them (haven't tested any X38s yet myself, but the 965P is definitely limited).

I'm not usually one to bash reviews. No one can get it right all the time. But as a system builder for the last 10 years who's livelyhood depends upon accurate reviews, it seems to me that Neoseeker is really steering people wrong with memory reviews. (check out the Crucial Tracer 8000 review to see what I mean, same dimm as the pc2-6400 with a nice LED) In this instance, to be off by $100 in price, have the results so far from the truth, and then add in the typo... makes me wonder if Neoseeker has an agenda or simply doesn't know much about overclocking. Their results on the G.Skill are easily matched on any Ballistix model that I've used to date, for about the same price. We bought our first set of Ballistix almost 2 years ago, and well before the EPP was incorporated. Same performance - the EPP. ;-)
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dark41 Oct 5, 07
BTW, we've also got a set of Ballistix PC2-8500 that CPU-Z says is PC2-6400. These perform almost identically to the PC2-6400, which makes me wonder if they aren't the same dimm with a different price and label. :-)
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SPUTNIK666 Oct 6, 07
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BTW, we've also got a set of Ballistix PC2-8500 that CPU-Z says is PC2-6400. These perform almost identically to the PC2-6400, which makes me wonder if they aren't the same dimm with a different price and label. :-)
no i think they are juste being read wrong, maybe that mobo doesnt read it right, i had this issue with some mobos, not reading the Kingston hyper x correctly in Cpu-z, and others read it correct, i have searched reviwes on these Crucial balistix PC6400 and found a good one at toms hardware and they toped all the test's out of more then 10 or 15 other types of DIMM's, and they got perfect review all arounf the net, now G.Skill are good DIMMs but i never seen anything that can match these balixtix babes!!

and they have a feature in their website that actualy match your mobo, with the correct memory!! never seen that before either.. but like you said everyone gets it wrong between ever now and then.. lets give neo a break this time hehe!! its ower job to research and find the best review plus in house testing, to make a good business, am a system builder aswell, although i'ev started since 2005.. still young in the business eh??

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SPUTNIK666 Oct 6, 07
i couldnt get good OCing on this Abit mobo, this is the worst abit overclocker i have ever had, it performs very nice though!! , the 570 sli is a crappy chipset, the p35 is a perfect overclocker, i'v seen good numbers on these new p35's and i have stocke some DQ6's and Asus p35's these are good performance boards.
most new AMD setups are really disapointing, but i have to get some of these X2's to be packed as midrang game machins, although Intel is in the fast lane, people still perfer to go with AMD, i have a three systems built around those X2 6000's left, and i think these are gonna be the last of AMD for me, i hope they comeback with better CPU's
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dark41 Oct 6, 07
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no i think they are juste being read wrong, maybe that mobo doesnt read it right
Possibly, but then I'd expect the performance to be different too and it's not.

We'll build anything someone asks for, but rarely do customers know what they want. They just know what they want the system to do.

I'd be more inclined to cut neo a break if they fixed their errors. 2 errors in one sentence is an easy fix "Corsair Ballistix $211 after rebate". "The G.SKILL's are at least $20 cheaper than the other memories they were compared to here, and did quite well against them." Also an easy fix, they did do quite well, but aren't $20 cheaper.

However all benchmarks would have to be rewritten with all brands at the same timing, or a statement that they couldn't match the timings on a particular brand. I doubt they even tried. It never occurred to me to try 4-3-3-6 until I saw this review. Since all of these dimms are Micron BH9, they should perform similarly, up to a point.
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